Dublin tall tower gateway…
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See a E400 million regeneration project is proposed for part of the Dublin Docks which will comprise of several towers which will act as a gateway for the city. Merchants Gate will be one of the largest developments in the docks and ‘will create a spectacular entrance to the city….there will be a wow factor just like the high rise buildings in New York or Chicago’ a quote from the Irish Times from the development’s prospector.
Seeing is believing!(No doubt the anti-high rise brigade are making up their ‘NO to High-Rise’ placards).
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Thanks, I’d already found it:
http://www.ireland.com/newspaper/commercialproperty/2003/1119/3444913181CPDOCKS.html
Sorry lads. A pair of 19-storey buildings will not generate a “wow factor just like high rise buildings in New York or Chicago”, as the buildings there are predominantly over 60 storeys high, with some over 100 stories. A pair of 19-storey buildings might generate a boredom factor equivalent to visiting Birmingham. Or Dublin, for that matter.
And they’re ugly too.
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Aye …looking at the images, they are quite bland are’nt they…..just regular run of the mill shite that would be found anywhere else abroad ….ie a provincial British city etc… yet we are making a big thing outta them. Jesus help us!
Please could we get some striking styling done to invigorate them to make it worth while.
It is a sad reflection on us to to see that we consider a mere 19 storey tower block as ‘spectacular’. Jesus help us again ….have these people ever been outside the country. -
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And still far better than “The worst urban renewal scheme ever undertaken by man”, or whatever the DDDA are calling the rubbish they’re inflicting on the docklands at the moment.
In fairness the buildings mentioned here might generate a “wow” factor in Dublin, since even though they are quite bland, they’re absolutely and completely unique in the context of ultra unmodern Dublin.
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Another favourite buzz-word at the moment has to be “landmark building”. It is equally unclear and fuzzy.
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Another ”landmark” development is going up at the corner of Capel St and Little Mary St…. and guess what its about as bland as they come.
Other favourite busswords…. ”stunning”, ”outstanding”… for almost every housing devlopment.
As for location of Merchants Gate – wasnt this the Wiggs Teape site that was so brutally slaughtered one bank holiday weekend…?
Anyway its the best place for high rise in the city. As I have always thought…. goodbye lowrise, working class East Wall hello brave new shiny mega monster skyscraper 19 storey docklands!!
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no, it is south of the wiggins teape site, it was the ratheborne candle factory and other bits and pieces, the developers have been collecting it for years.
wiggins teape has planning permission for i think six stories of offices in five blocks, very suburban, ie bland. anyway they are hoping to change two of these to residential, planning pending.
why do people always want to knock down east wall, what about fairview, clontarf, marino? leave east wall, we need a variety of housing types and there is enough brown field in the area for high rise apartments and offices.
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The notion of a gateway is a good one though – if ever put into reality. Example: arriving into Dublin from the north – either by airport or train is not an inpsiring image – but if you arrived into swanky well designed “wow factor” buildings your impressions would be much higher. You know what they say about first ones…
So piggybacking on this notion gives developers leverage with planners. -
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Speaking of Landmarks and all that malarky – London just approved a Renzo Piano designed jewel. It went through so much consultation and get reduced in scale and imapct several times – yet they still end up with a spectacular genuine “Landmark”. Can’t get the big pictures – check out http://www.rpwf.org/ for more…
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Yeah – very transamerica… and a city like that knows a thing or two about creating the “gateway” ideal – arrive from Oakland on the East on the fabulous Bay Bridge to a perfectly formed skyline with the transamerica the apex. Arrive from the North on the Golden Gate – ’nuff said there.
Our most prominent tall landmark – the spike, is also our most invisible! All the initial talk of how it will change with the day and provide a 365 a year monument etc – in reality it fades into the background – the most camoflaged “landmark” in Ireland! -
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Saw it yesterday from middle of Dublin bay. Framed by Liberty hall and what SOM referred to as the towers of darkness (the newish buildings on Georges quay). Looked quite visible from where I was.
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it also changes quite significantly with the changing light. yesterday there was a dramatic glowwing yellow streak right down the whole side of it from the low sun angle. i have also seen it coloured black down one side and shining down the other ( from mary street when there were dark clouds on the northside and sunshine on the south) has to be the most impressive variation i have seen so far. its changing quality is its most successful quality. perhaps too subtle for some but i find it a constant source of interest.
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it still intensifies the light and weather conditions. when the sun is shining the spire shines brighter when the sky is dull the spire takes on an even duller matte appearence. i think its quite beatiful.
the poor quality of finish on the spire and the lights fiasco are a disgrace. but i think ritchie should be commended for pulling off this part of the design. from a distance, it is as good as he promised. -
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What are these buidings called? I only referred to them as the towers of darkness because it was the only name I had heard them being being called.
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I quite like the way Busaras and the IFSC AIB building act as a gateway to the city when approaching from Amiens Street. The view of One Georges Quay Plaza adds an extra aspect to this view. I also like the gateway effect of the Millenium tower and the old concrete structures of Boland’s Mill.
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the idea of a gateway is boring to the point of tedium. they arn’t relevant anymore. i mean how many people really come to dublin on a ship down the liffey anymore?
we should concentrate on giving the city a coherent identity (encompassing the diverse areas) instead of worrying about some throw back concept from ancient rome, being executed with the innovation of a dead cat. -
I am not promoting the idea of building gateways everywhere, I was just admiring the way in which those two examples actually seem to work on some level. what I like about them is that they were not conceived in the same way as the present proposals are. The different buildings involved were built at very different times but seem to work to some effect along side each other.
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The article mentions only one 19-story tower, but the rendering shows two….
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This has been approved by Dublin City Council; it is an absolute certainty that it will be appealed against.
http://www.dublincity.ie/planning/swiftknowledge/articleDetail.php?hk=40201c9125036
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It looks kind of strange along there at the moment, the way parts of the old walls of the demolished buildings still front onto the streets.
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There will be serious construction complications with Tara St with it being so close to a rail line, but I see that the new tenant in the principal building is CIE enginering, so that at least indicates that it will probably be built eventually.
As for JR Quay, no-one seems to know whats going to happen with the U2 tower. The OMS scheme it appears is dead, and Dublin is very much the loser on that one.
I’m not so sure on the design quality of this one, the height is fine if not a little conservative for the site but it fails to deliver the wow factor in the way that the Gherkin for pure cheek or the shard for pure form delivered in London.
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Originally posted by burge_eye
canary dwarf????
Thanks for that Burge_eye 😀
I have also heard it called the pointy hat buildings as well.
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Something is happening at last with the U2 Tower, there is a tender document on http://www.ddda.ie for engineering services.
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