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    • #704891
      mht
      Participant

      this probably isn’t the place to post such an inquiry … but does anyone know what’s happening to the riai website ??? ie when will it be up and running again … i actually liked the previous design … didn’t really see the need to change

    • #715065
      MG
      Participant

      Every incarnation of the RIAI website has been a disgrace to the profession and I don’re really expect the new one to be any differant.

    • #715066
      Anonymous
      Participant

      I read in the August issue of the Irish Architect’ that they intend adding new features to the site. Tow things occur to me: a) they’re going to copy ideas from Archeire.com and b) how will they maintain it. Archeire.com works because Paul is afaik heavily involved in the Internet industry and thus has the capability.

    • #715067
      studqub
      Participant

      I’m new in town and am interested in attending lectures, building visits etc
      I was wondering if the AAI has published
      its events for the forthcoming season and will it posted on the net around the same time

      Also when will the new riai site reopen?

    • #715068
      Paul Clerkin
      Keymaster

      As soon as I receive the AAI events, they will be posted on this website. We also try to promote all the events from other organisations as well.

    • #715069
      Anonymous
      Participant

      I know from a reliable source that it should be up again within a week or two and it looks great

    • #715070
      MG
      Participant

      wouldnt be hard for it to be better than the former ones…..

    • #715071
      Anonymous
      Participant

      Sad but True ;(

    • #715072
      mht
      Participant

      “New Site Under Construction as of July 11.
      New Site will be Launched in August.”

      u’d of thought they could have at least updated whats on the website now… hardly a mammoth task…

      mht

    • #715073
      Anonymous
      Participant

      the new website is now up-for the amount of time it took to build its not to impressive.

    • #715074
      MG
      Participant

      what url?

    • #715075
      Anonymous
      Participant
    • #715076
      MG
      Participant

      it was down all afternoon, its pretty poor, terrible colours, thats gonna date so quickly….

      i assume they paid for that….. why dont they just get involved here?

    • #715077
      mht
      Participant

      i completely agree MG… i think its crap and certainly no improvement on the last effort… much more on the last site and its layout, colours, etc were much better…

      ps didn’t notice any link to here either…

      [This message has been edited by mht (edited 19 October 2000).]

    • #715078
      Paul Clerkin
      Keymaster

      Am very disappointed myself, again the same flaws that has always afflicted the RIAI sites: broken links – had trouble getting back to homepage from various pages; terrible design – those colours are woeful and there’s too many of them. I hope they didnt pay too much.

      I work as an Internet developer for a living and I can see so many holes regarding search engine placement, poor quality freebie scripts (the site search is awful) etc – broken discussion… a banner ad on the homepage that is clearly stretched…

      i’ll be interested in hearing John White’s opinion of the design as a designer and artist

      if the riai would like me to come in and audit the site, they know where to find me…

    • #715079
      opti
      Participant

      MG,

      to post a statement without any back-up, leads me to the conclusion that you have a personel problem with the RIAI and will attack whenever you can, this being an example. Just because it does not look like a TombRaider site and does not have nice colours does not make it a bad website. All the information required is there for members to use. I was wondering could you go into more detail about the problems with the web site rather than just stupid personel gripes.

    • #715080
      MG
      Participant

      I’m entitled to my opinions that

      * the colours are nasty
      * the sites tired and poor quality

      without it being an attack on the riai — rather it is an attack on the websites which in the past have been very unprofessional. The current one is better but the colours suck.

    • #715081
      Anonymous
      Participant

      I had a look at the website to see what all the fuss was about and I was expecting something really garish and well….it’s not that bad. The colours are quite jazzy but they do clash I suppose. Maybe one would’nt associate such colours with architecture I suppose…grey would come to mind but if you consider the colour of the Project Arts Centr well there you have it. Orange and Red together is a no no……. but the wine colour and airforce blue are quite complimentary and look good as well as the logo typeface in the top corner. The layout is good too and very easy to read and follow.

    • #715082
      john white
      Participant

      I’m too busy working on two sites of my own today to look past much more than the front page but I’d quickly suggest:

      • Too many conflicting colours – the main pink header accross the top should probably be the blue/grey of their logo with the text in white – without the top and bottom stripes

      • the colour arrangement and construction of the left and right column buttons are conflicting [too similar whilst being different. Know what I mean?]

      • Too many conflicting typefaces

      • The seemingly Archeire-inspired divider/header graphics are a good move but the alignment of the attached photos seems a little zig-zaggy

      Generally speaking – not hideous, just needs a little more very simple adjustment. Wouldn’t take much really. I’d say: whatever the nice touches are, try to repeat them throughout the rest of the page/site – rather than allowing a designed by commitee look to creep in.

      That’s my aesthetic-review based a quick examination. Hope it’s not too harsh,

      J

    • #715083
      opti
      Participant

      Guys,

      thanks for your opinions, you too MG, I hope I did not insult you, no offense meant. Since we are discussing websites in general, maybe we should open a forum to discuss what we would like to see on web sites like Archeire, BuildOnline, Construct&Design and construction Plus. So rather than been told what we want, we can tell them what we want.

      Let me know…..OPTI

    • #715084
      Paul Clerkin
      Keymaster

      you the designer opti of riai.ie?

      anyways – i always try to take on board suggestions for archeire…. but fyi in the next few months you will see three new parts of the site…..

      but i’m moving to our own server soon so will have no space restrictions and will be able to add a lot more stuff.. if you want to see something in particular – drop me a line paul@archeire.com

    • #715085
      opti
      Participant

      Hi paul,

      No I am not the designer of the RIAI website, but I am part of the world of E-Commerce. I am a great fan of Archeire, one of the best sites for the construction industry, I particularly enjoy the forums.

      I will send you an E-mail, with more detail.

      OPTI

    • #715086
      MK
      Participant

      John White, what 2 sites are you working on, Im interesting in seeing them. Your posts here are enjoyable & in the spirit of good discussion, Id enjoy seeing what else your working on.

    • #715087
      Paul Clerkin
      Keymaster

      john works for a webdev house so they may not actually be arch. related…

    • #715088
      john white
      Participant

      That’s right Paul and MK. Thanks for the nice remarks by the way.

      The Websites I’m presently working on aren’t really viewable. Still in development. Funnily enough, they’re all charity related: APSO [site re-design] they share our technology and skills with Developing world countries, St. John of God Hospitaller Services, a new Forum website for all international agencies involved in sharing technology etc for Overseas Development.

      Good worthy stuff indeed!
      I must say I’m really beginning to enjoy that type of client and project as opposed to the COMTELINTERDEVCORPSOFT.COM shite.

    • #715089
      Paul Clerkin
      Keymaster

      Shudder… used to do a lot of the COMTELINTERDEVCORPSOFT.COM shite myself… glad i don’t now.. only interested in doing art / architecture / cultural projects…

    • #715090
      john white
      Participant

      Well now, that’d be IDEAL! You’re lucky if you can keep getting those [obviously, it’s not just luck].

      YOU LUCKY SOD YOU

    • #715091
      Anonymous
      Participant

      Alright, alright, enough of the mutual backslapping and compliments!

    • #715092
      john white
      Participant

      Let me just say right now Emily,

      I think you’re just a wonnerful human being

    • #715093
      Anonymous
      Participant

      Guys,

      Jakob Nielsen, the self-proclaimed God of Internet usability ($20,000 a day I believe he charges, says that chat rooms, bulletin boards, etc., are the worst things to add to a site, as they attract nothing but vacuous remarks and meaningless nonsense.

      Any comments in light of how this discussion has developed?

    • #715094
      -Donnacha-
      Participant

      I disagree,
      It depends on the site itself doesn’t it? Websites that are likely to attract immature teenies who feel very brave and often become involved in slagging matches, are doomed. (well ,their forums are).Have a look through some of these posts, I do not think that they are meaningless, or vacuous, the opposite in fact. People who like to cause ‘trouble’ in a post are more likely to be put off if totally ignored, and/or outnumbered. I stumbled across this site only recently, and find the forums excellent, and useful also.

      [This message has been edited by bunch (edited 25 October 2000).]

    • #715095
      Anonymous
      Participant

      Thats a Bunch of crap

    • #715096
      Anonymous
      Participant

      No, I actually agree with bunch – playing Devil’s advocate earlier.

      I’m more of a follower of the “Cluetrain Manifesto” (http://www.cluetrain.com) really, which suggests that the beauty of the Web is that it will empower customers by linking them together and allowing them to communicate over such forums as Archeire and exhange their views on products, companies, etc.

      I was just “curious” about the benefits that members of such an active community as this felt they were receiving.

    • #715097
      -Donnacha-
      Participant

      Ha Ha.Reliable Source.

    • #715098
      john white
      Participant

      Oh God, can we please limit this forum to registered users? Using their real names if possible?

    • #715099
      -Donnacha-
      Participant

      Why so John White? I do not use my ‘full, real name’, would that be a problem? (I’m not being smart by the way.)

      [This message has been edited by bunch (edited 26 October 2000).]

    • #715100
      john white
      Participant

      I just think think it would be a further disincentive to people who are posting crap on this forum in order to take the piss

    • #715101
      -Donnacha-
      Participant

      Generally, I agree, but some people will prefer not to give full names and remain committed to a decent debate. Anonymity may also encourage some to be more open in debate as well. However I do think that it can lead to others abusing it also.

      [This message has been edited by bunch (edited 26 October 2000).]

    • #715102
      MG
      Participant

      Another new version of the RIAI site. Looks well, much better than earlier ones (obviously their designer is learning how to design).

      But I do enjoy the Disclaimer page — the link is at the bottom of the front page.

    • #715103
      Paul Clerkin
      Keymaster

      I agree, a much better looking site from the institute. Hopefully they can continue to keep it up to date. Up to date does not mean a new ‘skin’ every year 😉

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