JackHack
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From taking a good look at the new Bridge Yesterday, I think the design is good, I like it. It’s funny how much the backdrop can alter your perception, from one angle it looks great, with IFSC as background, but from others it’s not as good. There’s just so much crap around the Quays, Jury’s Inn & the suburban type council houses being the worst.
What would benefit the bridge would be a more contrasting colour, I think it could be done well. But does it sound a bit DIYish to be painting over the new bridge?
The park was never one that would have tempted me to linger for a moment, no matter how jaded I was. It was just a stop off place for the aimless drunks in the area. From the many artists impressions I’ve seen, I think the building is a good design and will work well.
But what about the Olympia canopy, is that gone for good?, if so that’s a far greater loss to the street than a shoddy park.
On a similar topic, I’d also like to see a building erected on the vacant area beside the Castle Inn pub on Christchurch. I know that they have spruced up the area considerable in the past year, but It’s little more than a bike parking space and a building of quality design could do a lot for Christchurch, even compensating in some way for the Jury’s yellow pack hotel.
As a frequenter of Jervis shopping center, I’ve been a looking at Wolfe Tone Park for years, I got a say, it sucks presently!!.
There has been some discussion on this forum about Dublin City Council having an obsession with making everything look modern in style and design, from this Park to O’Connell St. Well while O’Connell St. may work out when it is all finished, this parks is an eyesore.
I think it should be looked upon as derelist and classified as high priority for a makeover, given it’s proximity to the cities main commercial shopping street and the new Luas line.
Now, the vision I have for it is a return to some classic town park design, not Dublin/Georgian style, but Spanish style. Most spanish style squares have railings but not the kind that close the park of in a bubble, but instead have low railings which divide pathways from the shrubbery. The parks have a strong social emphasis been both comfortablle places to sit while also designed for plesant to cross through, with the emphasis on Paving, shrubbery and symmetry, but sparse in grass.
The present park here should be ditched along with Ballymuns Pearse Tower.
Just a thought though…
I’m wondering what was the thinking in putting the cycle lane on the inside of the street when conventional wisdom is that cyclists use the left hand side of the road when cycling.
I’ve noticed a number of cyclists getting elbowed dangerously off the street just as the old road layout meets the new. This happens with the new cycle lane on the inside of the street causing the traffic to veer over to the left, leaving nought space for yer man on his puch bike.
In hindsight it would have made sense to have cycle lanes on both sides given the amply space available. Or is the plan for cyclists to use the footpaths as on the continent, in which case I hope the Garda are informed so as they wont be wasting their valuable time annoying cyclists instead of wasting their time in otherways.
The lights look a lot more impressive when there’s a decent wind to sway the top, the sparkling affect makes up for the relative dimness of the it.
Perhaps they could modify it so the internal lights would sway even on a still evening.Or perhaps just tape a few fairy lights to it, they usually last for a few weeks aswell.
Talking of south city Markets, is there any plans for the Derelict Market just off Thomas St, on Francis Street?
I’d imagine there’d be plenty of businness for a larger supermarket in this area.I had a good look around at the Bridge on Monday (Sunny Day) and I was quite impressed, the quality and finish is superb, design is interesting and pedestrians are well catered for.
I can’t agree with some of the negative comments on another discussion thread at all, the bridge highlights the drabness of the surrounding 90’s apartment blocks but it could hardly be argued that the bridge should drably fit in with the apartments, the bridge will be around long after the blocks are pulled down.
view from down river on a rainy day….
looks quite nimble here on dublincity.ie/traffic, though I haven’t seen it up close yet.
a more laid-back spike….
http://www.parkwest.ie/images/PW%20spike%20sculpture.jpg
makes the spire look a bit stressed.
An erection with a reflection, to be sure to be sure. Have they started making key rings & t-shirts of this yet or would Dublin City Council have some copyright on that? If they did the spike would probably be self financing, even profitable.
Some form of a double/adjustable wier could be designed that would keep the minimum height up river at low tide and maitain a maximum height a high tide. This is possible I think.
Also I think the wier is better placed at the location of the Pedestrian bridge where it can be admired rather than placing it where it may take away from the magnificance of the Mat Talbot bridge,
One other wonder, really isn’t a river boat on the liffey about as much use as having guided tours of Hawkins house? It should only happen if it’s commercial.
Well as a connection it will be pretty usefull I think, more so than then millenuim bridge. Can’t really tell from the image how it will look.
But I recall seeing before a mooted design for a pedestrian bridge at this point that incorporated a wier like thing that would have kept the water at a minimum height in the liffey and also incorpprated a lock to allow boats to ascend. Could be a better idea, me thinks.With all the talk of the height of the spike, do you not feel we’re slipping into the mentality that bigger is better and that’s what counts.
I’d rather not know any of the statistics about the spike at all and just take it as I see it.Personally Beaux Lane House looks good to me except for the Use of the Black Glass, Maybe I’m just a sucker for curves. Also the “Beaux Lane House” sign looks terrible, the corporate colours don’t work with the building in this case.
There’s a reasonable big office block behind Baggot St. Upper of the Maspil Road, it’s clad in a Blueish glass that looks really refreshing.
No More Black Glass Please.The new Social Housing mentioned above are well worth wondering down there to have a look at. The Building design and colour really let a breath of fresh air into the street. The contrast with some of the older Corpo falts behind is striking.
The Global shift nowadays is to privatise everything with the mantra that the private sector can do things better than civil servants and the state. But If I were to make a list of my top five residential developements in Dublin in the past few years, the state would be responsible for them all. Maybe that’s just a relfection of the dismal breed of private developer we have in Ireland.
I’d love to see the City Council to become mush more involved with residential property in the City.
The tourists who go there love it though,
Of course they could do with cleaning up the place a lot but as for the general type of businness activities that go on there, I’d say let it be. FMD complaints about the Goths and internet nerds are futile and would sound no different than if you were to hear the Goths complain about all the oldies hanging around the Tourist shops on Nassau st.The Authorities could go pouring cash into Temple Bar to make it more trendy and mature but I think those resources would be better directed to another area of Dublin and work for a cultural quater elsewhere.
Leave TB as the Tourist pub area if that’s what they seem to like, it’s better than the bus station that could have been.
FMD aspires to live in a kind of area which is just not natural to Dublin & it’s people, Maybe.
Tony Gregory, the local mans TD, generally labels High Rise with Developer Greed and often repeats that Mantra. I think someone will have to enlighten the people Gregory represents as to the benefits of building up. Their opinions are I believe a considerable part of the reason the height is being limited.
That aswell as lame decision makers.Personally I like the Carlton site the way it it.
It still has hope and whenever I pass I can imagine the possiblilites for such a great site.
The Carlton site reminds me of Gardiners St the way it was 10 yrs ago. Gardiner st had potential to be a magnificant st. but alas it will have to wait until the next generation of buildings replace whats gone up. Maybe the Summerhill corner will elevate the street above bland nothingness.
I reckon they should increase them my more than the one story.
They impression when looking accross the liffey at the IFSC from the south side is quite deflated. The height of the present building could easily have been increased without any negative impact. I’d be more for various towers than of a general accross the board standard height.
