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Curtilage has been causing havoc for years, principally because it is not defined in the planning act. Long story short – set up a meeting and ask your local planner
http://planninglawblog.blogspot.ie/2011/08/curtilage-confusion-some-further.html
I’ve no doubt that all the hoohay caused by the likes of Mannix Flynn helped shift that decision
Anyway – how apt that we are writing about this exactly 365 days since the application was lodged. Given that Mr QPR will probably now just try to recoup some of his paltry €2m outlay and move on somewhere else we can now only hope that the current hotel manages to stay standing until somebody else trudges through the design and planning process – although I doubt very much it will survive another 2 years.
In the meantime we can all continue to admire it for the outstanding contribution it makes to the visual impact of the quays
’tis dead
http://www.pleanala.ie/casenum/243103.htm
this should now allow the building to quietly fall down around us. Well done Joyceans
try this bunch – they’re very helpful
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I really find it laughable how all these bleeding hearts are suddenly concerned with a building that should have been on the derelict register about 3 years ago. All because of some obscure reference of some indecipherable 100 year old book that people have on their bookshelves to try and make them look arty. I don’t recall mass mourning when it was given permission to be demolished 8 years ago – too busy talking about house prices rather than Ulysses.
I hope these people tie it up in planning for 2 years or so and hopefully by then it will be a pile of rubble that we can sweep up and get on with moving into the 19th Century
for the love of God something must be happening in this city other than footpaths, lighting and signage
Will someone please think of the children
@gunter wrote:
That Corpo scan of the proposed office block on the Distillers’ site perfectly captures the leaden qualities of the proposal.
We really are in the architectural doldrums at the moment._ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
A Public Event Licence application was recently lodged for a ‘German Market’ and a seasonal public ice rink, all under the marketing umbrella of a ‘Winterwonderlands’, intended to be located on the grounds at the Royal Hospital in Kilmainham. Is there some reason, that I’m simply not understanding, why this kind of thing isn’t going into the vast emptiness of Smithfield? .
the horses would slip. although, they’d be bratwurst in no time then so
I was looking at the IFSC event guide and note that the german xmas market isn’t there (yet). I hope this isn’t its new home because it will die a million deaths in the RHK
wow – first #1 Ballsbridge, now this. OMP must have a drawing cabinet in their office with a picture of a big white elephant on it
@kefu wrote:
De Paor project in the new Terminal at Dublin Airport, attractive if a little fussy:
http://www.dezeen.com/2011/01/20/oak-bar-by-depaor-architects/looks like that trip he went on in Venice is still wearing off
unfortunately the nature of such large airport spaces breeds this kind of thing – it forces people into “installation” mode. It instills the need to inject “human scale” when perhaps the form of the surroundin gbuilding is strong enough to exist without it. It’s better than anything at Stanstead anyway
@jimg wrote:
Here we go again indeed. The usual narrow provincial orthodoxy regarding reconstruction. I know of nowhere outside of the UK and Ireland where the idea of reconstruction is viewed by professional architects and planners with the sort of disgust and contempt normally reserved for pedophiles, bankers and The X-factor. All over the rest of the planet reconstruction is considered a perfectly valid option in situations like this. But what would continental Europeans, for example, know about maintaining vibrant cities? (Now where is that sarcastic/rolling eyes smiley I had my hand on…)
In this particular context, it’s an option which deserves very serious consideration in my opinion, not sneering dismissal.
it might help if you could show examples of successful reincarnations of a similar scale “on the mainland” including original scheme, misguided infil and glorious replacement so that us heathens can be enlightened
@PVC King wrote:
The ESB are a utility provider and electrical infrastructure contractor; what are they doing acting as a property company at a time when office vacancy rates are in excess of 20% in Dublin?
I agree that a pastiche infill would be wrong; but would also say this proposal should be refused on the following grounds
1. Design style, it is too brash for its setting and would detract from the unity of the Fitz/Merrion mile
2. The set backs would not protect views from Merrion Square
3. There is no need for office space in Dublin due to chronic over-supply
4. The proposal is contrary to government policy on raising revenue from semi state disposals – this would very much damage the appeal and add a lot of risk to a dividend led business model
you’re judging design on a scheme that failed to make the shortlist.
@DOC wrote:
Sweet baby jesus! I’m sure the IGS would love that one!
Obviously ESB breif for accomodation is probably/possibly more that the site can handle given it’s context.
oh dear. here we go again
Let’s all rubbish the current ESB building while clamouring for some kind of carbon copy or limp pastiche of the past. We need to get over ourselves and accept that the georgians are gone. Georgian architecture is gone. Any attempt to fill the gap using sepia tinted spectacles will result in an infil – and a poor one at that. Just take a look at anything that Robert Adam has done – it’s a short step to Quinlan Terry
The IGS should be reponsible for the conservation and protection of existing buildings. They should in fact be totally against any attempt to copy the past and I am surprised that they have not objected to DCC’s misguided amendment to the development plan
The existing bank of ireland sets up a height profile to the rear of the site perfectly conducive to 8 storeys being adjacent to it, falling to 4 on Fitwilliam
There is a real opportunity here and this kind of lazy backward looking thinking is only going to serve the status quo. And, while we’re at it, maybe we shouldn’t be judging the potential end product by making throwaway comments on schemes that failed to make the shortlist
given this,
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2010/1016/1224281254585.html
and the takeover of NIE, along with debts incurred by defaulters and the massive cost overrun of the network upgrade I fear this baby is flowing down the drain with the bathwater
@dermot_trellis wrote:
. It might be a different story for rugby though where the ball is high in the air a lot of the time.
.Argentina obviously had all the possession then.
looking at that last picture I’m struck by the finality of the design. There seems to be no prospect of ever extending the ground at the far end – say if they ever got control of more land. The only possibility would be to put in a straight section of stand-alone seating as the corners could never come round because of the trusses
was anyone else as disappointed as me yesterday? the trusses are terribly clunky and, for the size of them, why does the roof not overhang more? I was sitting 11 rows back and had to get bog roll to dry my seat and then had to give up when it lashed at half time. it’s not as if it has to hold up glass either, just cheap old perspex. And that little strip of seating at the end is ridiculous. the only plus point is that we seem to have a future goal kicker
