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    notjim
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    Can I start a TCD thread, a thread for that glorious island whose traffic licked shores circumscribes my working day and whose, sometimes shaky, dedication to higher purpose anoints our great city.

    First off and most importantly, beautiful, or at least uplifting architecture was once expected of many institutions, local banks, Garda stations, schools, hotels, in the case of universities this expectation persists. Although the fullness of time will weigh accurately the fruit of our scholarship and research, in the short term, day to day, academic life is about a lot of ambitious, arguementative, opinionated people expressing their opinions and trying to win arguements. To win, to be listened to, to be even noticed, you need respect and, well, respect is partly about where you work, its history, its reputation and its appearance.

    How does TCD do: pretty well, the location, a fine Georgian set piece for front square, the Berkeley library is one of Ireland’s finest modernist buildings, the New Museum Building has fine carving and the Calder is a great piece of public art, beautifully sited, the conversion of the Provost’s stables is a dream. Where does it fail, well there are lots of trivial buildings too, the houses on the perimeter are poorly maintained, some of the grounds, the same, too many cars, the Pearse St disaster and most amazing of all, the college doesn’t routinely buy small pieces of property off but near the main site for student accommodation, leaving it very vulnerable to landlocking and leaving students with an incomplete university experience.

    Anyway, here is the newly polished Sphere within a Sphere, about to be remounted on its repaired revolving stand.

    #801409

    Anonymous

    You know the front range at Trinity, Parliament Square, or whatever it’s called, there’s a lot of space between the top floor windows and the roof and the roof itself is very steep.

    There must be an awful lot of space up there!

    What goes on up there?

    #801410

    Anonymous

    If those walls could talk, eh?

    If you happen to be passing, say Hi to Angela (two floors up, to the right).

    #801411

    Anonymous

    @ctesiphon wrote:

    If those walls could talk, eh?

    If you happen to be passing, say Hi to Angela (two floors up, to the right).

    and her friend Betsy. She can leaf through my notes any time

    #801412

    Anonymous

    I think ‘island’ is the right term for the campus with all its accompanying strengths and disadvantages.

    I’m actually only sticking my oar in here to recount an American buddy of mine who was convinced Aras an bPiarsigh was actually pronounced ‘Arse Piercing’ when we cruelly sent him to the front security desk to ask for directions one day!

    #801413

    Paul Clerkin
    Keymaster

    I have to say that the last day I was in TCD, the place was a mess. Litter everywhere, and the weeds growing out of Grafton Architects podium was disgraceful.

    #801414

    Anonymous

    And worse, until last week there was weeds growing on the stone base around the Calder; I suppose money is tight, but the lack of care given to small acts of maintenance really bugs me. As for the Ussher podium, have you seen the state of the drawbridge; there is a drawbridge, which I have never seen used which should connect the Ussher to Nassau street, it is gradually decaying.

    #801415

    Anonymous

    @gunter wrote:

    You know the front range at Trinity, Parliament Square, or whatever it’s called, there’s a lot of space between the top floor windows and the roof and the roof itself is very steep. There must be an awful lot of space up there! What goes on up there?

    Well the boring answer is, I think, that the windows are quite low and so the top floor extends up further than you would expect, not a great photo from the top of house 5, note that the sink actually cuts off the bottom quarter of the window.

    House 5

    and here is the view from the same window.

    House 5

    #801416

    Anonymous

    Wow, you can see a lot of grass from up there.

    #801417

    Anonymous

    @gunter wrote:

    Wow, you can see a lot of grass from up there.

    I seem to remember winning this argument in a different thread.

    #801418

    Paul Clerkin
    Keymaster

    Who were the architects of the Pearse Street buildings? Drawing a blank unless I guess.

    #801419

    Anonymous

    @paul Clerkin wrote:

    Who were the architects of the Pearse Street buildings? Drawing a blank unless I guess.

    Seems that several folk were involved.

    #801420

    Anonymous

    RKD architects working with Wilson Architects:

    http://www.wilsonarch.com/index/portfolio?projectsid=30

    (posted simultaneously with cobalt above)

    #801421

    Anonymous

    Is it true that there’s an unrepealed Bye-Law on the books to the effect that, if you’re in the possession of a sword and you ride into Trinity on a horse demanding a ‘snifter’ of whishey, they’re obliged to give it to you?

    I suspect that a ‘snifter’ wouldn’t be the most generous of measures, but nonetheless, if you could slightly up-date the criteria from ‘sword’ and ‘horse’ to ‘fountain pen’ and ‘bicycle’, this could still be a useful clause.

    #801422

    Anonymous

    You know the funny thing is I was in Trinity in Cambridge for a while and they had the same, almost exactly the same, story there. I doubt it is true there and I am sure it is not true here, the statutes have been rewritten relatively recently.

    #801423

    Anonymous

    @notjim wrote:

    And worse, until last week there was weeds growing on the stone base around the Calder; I suppose money is tight, but the lack of care given to small acts of maintenance really bugs me. As for the Ussher podium, have you seen the state of the drawbridge; there is a drawbridge, which I have never seen used which should connect the Ussher to Nassau street, it is gradually decaying.

    The Nassua Street drawbridge with rust visible.

    Nassua St Drawbridge

    #801424

    Anonymous

    Well, there’s no mention of horses, swords or whiskey in the consolidated statutes of 1966 and I doubt they were reinserted in the recent amendments.

    http://www.tcd.ie/Secretary/Board/Other_Papers/Statutes-Current.pdf

    #801425

    Anonymous

    there’s also the story that if you are a scholar you can demand a glass of port during your exams. That’d be nice

    #801426

    Anonymous

    @adhoc wrote:

    Well, there’s no mention of horses, swords or whiskey in the consolidated statutes of 1966 and I doubt they were reinserted in the recent amendments.

    Thanks for that, I had the feeling I was being set up.

    #801427

    Anonymous

    Trinity during the light show back in February.

    Custard cream anyone?

    And during a quiet weekend morning – the perfect time for a nice contemplative sit.

    Also the extraordinary crown, cylinder, and modern float glass contrasting in a window of the Chapel – one of the delights of the Trinity campus.

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    notjim
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    Can I start a TCD thread, a thread for that glorious island whose traffic licked shores circumscribes my working day and whose, sometimes shaky, dedication to higher purpose anoints our great city.

    First off and most importantly, beautiful, or at least uplifting architecture was once expected of many institutions, local banks, Garda stations, schools, hotels, in the case of universities this expectation persists. Although the fullness of time will weigh accurately the fruit of our scholarship and research, in the short term, day to day, academic life is about a lot of ambitious, arguementative, opinionated people expressing their opinions and trying to win arguements. To win, to be listened to, to be even noticed, you need respect and, well, respect is partly about where you work, its history, its reputation and its appearance.

    How does TCD do: pretty well, the location, a fine Georgian set piece for front square, the Berkeley library is one of Ireland’s finest modernist buildings, the New Museum Building has fine carving and the Calder is a great piece of public art, beautifully sited, the conversion of the Provost’s stables is a dream. Where does it fail, well there are lots of trivial buildings too, the houses on the perimeter are poorly maintained, some of the grounds, the same, too many cars, the Pearse St disaster and most amazing of all, the college doesn’t routinely buy small pieces of property off but near the main site for student accommodation, leaving it very vulnerable to landlocking and leaving students with an incomplete university experience.

    Anyway, here is the newly polished Sphere within a Sphere, about to be remounted on its repaired revolving stand.

    #801409

    Anonymous
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    You know the front range at Trinity, Parliament Square, or whatever it’s called, there’s a lot of space between the top floor windows and the roof and the roof itself is very steep.

    There must be an awful lot of space up there!

    What goes on up there?

    #801410

    Anonymous
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    If those walls could talk, eh?

    If you happen to be passing, say Hi to Angela (two floors up, to the right).

    #801411

    Anonymous
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    @ctesiphon wrote:

    If those walls could talk, eh?

    If you happen to be passing, say Hi to Angela (two floors up, to the right).

    and her friend Betsy. She can leaf through my notes any time

    #801412

    Anonymous
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    I think ‘island’ is the right term for the campus with all its accompanying strengths and disadvantages.

    I’m actually only sticking my oar in here to recount an American buddy of mine who was convinced Aras an bPiarsigh was actually pronounced ‘Arse Piercing’ when we cruelly sent him to the front security desk to ask for directions one day!

    #801413

    Paul Clerkin
    Keymaster
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    I have to say that the last day I was in TCD, the place was a mess. Litter everywhere, and the weeds growing out of Grafton Architects podium was disgraceful.

    #801414

    Anonymous
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    And worse, until last week there was weeds growing on the stone base around the Calder; I suppose money is tight, but the lack of care given to small acts of maintenance really bugs me. As for the Ussher podium, have you seen the state of the drawbridge; there is a drawbridge, which I have never seen used which should connect the Ussher to Nassau street, it is gradually decaying.

    #801415

    Anonymous
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    @gunter wrote:

    You know the front range at Trinity, Parliament Square, or whatever it’s called, there’s a lot of space between the top floor windows and the roof and the roof itself is very steep. There must be an awful lot of space up there! What goes on up there?

    Well the boring answer is, I think, that the windows are quite low and so the top floor extends up further than you would expect, not a great photo from the top of house 5, note that the sink actually cuts off the bottom quarter of the window.

    House 5

    and here is the view from the same window.

    House 5

    #801416

    Anonymous
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    Wow, you can see a lot of grass from up there.

    #801417

    Anonymous
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    @gunter wrote:

    Wow, you can see a lot of grass from up there.

    I seem to remember winning this argument in a different thread.

    #801418

    Paul Clerkin
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    Who were the architects of the Pearse Street buildings? Drawing a blank unless I guess.

    #801419

    Anonymous
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    @paul Clerkin wrote:

    Who were the architects of the Pearse Street buildings? Drawing a blank unless I guess.

    Seems that several folk were involved.

    #801420

    Anonymous
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    RKD architects working with Wilson Architects:

    http://www.wilsonarch.com/index/portfolio?projectsid=30

    (posted simultaneously with cobalt above)

    #801421

    Anonymous
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    Is it true that there’s an unrepealed Bye-Law on the books to the effect that, if you’re in the possession of a sword and you ride into Trinity on a horse demanding a ‘snifter’ of whishey, they’re obliged to give it to you?

    I suspect that a ‘snifter’ wouldn’t be the most generous of measures, but nonetheless, if you could slightly up-date the criteria from ‘sword’ and ‘horse’ to ‘fountain pen’ and ‘bicycle’, this could still be a useful clause.

    #801422

    Anonymous
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    You know the funny thing is I was in Trinity in Cambridge for a while and they had the same, almost exactly the same, story there. I doubt it is true there and I am sure it is not true here, the statutes have been rewritten relatively recently.

    #801423

    Anonymous
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    @notjim wrote:

    And worse, until last week there was weeds growing on the stone base around the Calder; I suppose money is tight, but the lack of care given to small acts of maintenance really bugs me. As for the Ussher podium, have you seen the state of the drawbridge; there is a drawbridge, which I have never seen used which should connect the Ussher to Nassau street, it is gradually decaying.

    The Nassua Street drawbridge with rust visible.

    Nassua St Drawbridge

    #801424

    Anonymous
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    Well, there’s no mention of horses, swords or whiskey in the consolidated statutes of 1966 and I doubt they were reinserted in the recent amendments.

    http://www.tcd.ie/Secretary/Board/Other_Papers/Statutes-Current.pdf

    #801425

    Anonymous
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    there’s also the story that if you are a scholar you can demand a glass of port during your exams. That’d be nice

    #801426

    Anonymous
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    @adhoc wrote:

    Well, there’s no mention of horses, swords or whiskey in the consolidated statutes of 1966 and I doubt they were reinserted in the recent amendments.

    Thanks for that, I had the feeling I was being set up.

    #801427

    Anonymous
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    Trinity during the light show back in February.

    Custard cream anyone?

    And during a quiet weekend morning – the perfect time for a nice contemplative sit.

    Also the extraordinary crown, cylinder, and modern float glass contrasting in a window of the Chapel – one of the delights of the Trinity campus.

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