Bren88
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can anyone update the whole list? the tunnel is done and o connel street, and the airport on the way,
can have accurate info on the restThe building on the other corner of henrietta street and bolton street, The Kings Inn, Has an application in to knock the three floors over basement and build appartments. Lets hope the DCC get it right this time.
@Cathal Dunne wrote:
Exactly, it should be fandabadozy when our European brothers and sisters descend on our Fair City to see the match. After the Special olympics and the Ryder Cup, I believe that our country can host any sport competition given it. The decision also helps our cause for a Celtic Euro 2012 bid with our Scottish friends and allies and the Rugby World Cup in the middle of the next decade, and, I like to think, the 2020 World Cup.(I live in hope)
Maybe a joint european champ with scotland.
Maybe even a small part in the world cup, together with mayve two countries of the UK.
But what other sporting event could we even think od outside of football???
We had the Ryder cup, as we deserved it too as the K club is a top course. But what other international events could we cater for. Golf, a shared football championship.
Can you think of anything else we could hope to hold, outside of Darts or Poker.But this building has such an irregular plan, different people would see its direction in different ways. From visiting the building, i’d consider it to be pointing more towards the historic building on the same site. The remains of the barracks and archway. Hopefully these will be better taken care of now that the CC is in such close proximity.
I think that architecture, in general needs to be seen on site, as plans, photos, models, 3D graphics and sketchs rarely show a build ing its true light
@lostexpectation wrote:
http://www.riai.ie/gallery.html?type=regional&item=3
I came across some more pics and explaination of this building… im still trying to get over its severity, and of similar Heneghan Peng projects.
the building looks different lit up like that, the text describes the building creating a civic space among its wings, and if its like the grass bowl at the dublin offices(hidden and underused as it is), it might be very welcoming atlhough it looks little more exposed. I presuming the civic space is in the foreground of rhe first picture as the second picture shows quite a narrow space although that might be a distorted photo.
Also those photos show more of it in relation to the town is it in the centre of the town? Are the the event ramps, an atrium like area for civic receptions etc
What about all this angular stuff, I hope its form and function like the Ghurkin building, I wonder if there much less light on the downward facing side…
The second picture is infact a close up of the first pcture, it appears narrower because the glass walls are the rain screens, they appear rather pale in the first picture. The walkway passes under neath these and is missing from the pic
johniwhite, correct me if i am wrong, but some of your comments suggest that you have not seen this building outside of photos. I suggest you do as they do not do it justice. You asked if architects care about the inside of buildings, have you seen the inside of this one. And its not just a slanty box. Go and have a look for yourself, walk around it. You’ll probably still hate it, but you’ll have a better reason
It’s not total country out in Naas town, i know its not quite dublin city, but i think it will fill fit in even better in a few years. Nass has alot of large decelopments in the pipelines. Such as a shopping centre on main street, this will incourage even more “city architecture”. I for one would be more than happy if future buildings in the area were this creative.
@sw101 wrote:
some pics… http://www.irish-architecture.com/buildings_ireland/kildare/naas/araskildara.html
it’s a stunning building. i’m waiting for an excuse to go in there during working hours.
I was sent out to Aras Cil Dara last tuesday, handy errand seeing as this thread popped back up
I’ve been out to the Naas office a few times in recent weeks. It’s a marmite of a building, but I think it looks well.
As for Naas being a well preserved town. An board pleanla just granted a shopping centre for main street, but keeping original facades. Alot of work like that in Naas over the years.
@jayluna wrote:
what a bazzar thread.
is it really that difficult to find an Architect to do a small interesting renos.
group hug seems to be a groovy potential client.Alot of people just dont have the time for those kind of side jobs. Its often approaching a small firm and getting them to do it as a full job, rather than a bit on the side.
Unfortunatly they’re not regs now, unless you are using it in an area that requires increased fire proformance. I think that the best way to do it is actually Sound Bloc plasterboard with quilt insulation. Not a full fill like internal walls, but around 75mm.
GrahamH: Timber construction has definately come on since its beginings. Your point about sound is correct. Timber construction in is very basic form is less resistant to sound transfer. Just as concrete is less resistant to heat transfer. That is why the standard of construction in weak areas is upgraded to achieve an acceptable standard. For example, timber is a greater fire risk and needs protection. To cope with sound transfer in timber buildings, various elements are added, such as double layer construction, an insulation material in internal walls or and more resistive plasterboard, such as Gypsums SoundBloc.
And beolight: Griffner use the same construction process in their Irish factory as they do in their austrian. The material are the same, such as the windows and doors. So I imagine that the standard is the same.
@WX wrote:
Thanks Bren88,
I got a quote from Griffner Coillte and it seemed reasonable enough. We are looking at sites in the country side, it is very remote and we liked the idea of a timber house and think it would be more suitable and fit in better with the landscape.
I know they have a template design that can be changed. I guess architects wouldn’t view this very favourably, but it’s the cheapest option and it looks pretty good espically in a rural setting.
I’m not sure about the health benefits either, would it be something to do with asthma?
Well the house comes with a mesh render finish so it looks the same as tradition construction, cladding is obviouly available too. The finish is less important than the design when it comes to the setting and the houses have a non traditional aspect to them. Because its an Austrian company.
You do know that the prices doesn’t cover the full construction, the foundation must be laid and prepped for the house. This will have to be by an external company. And accuracy is more important here than regualar construction because if the prefab element.Conventional timber framed houses have a timber inner leaf and a concrete/brick outer leaf. The Griffner Coillte system uses a single 300mm timber glulam leaf. And so more timber, some people regard this as more environmental, but there is much more to design than that if you are looking at that route.
I would say that they CAN be cheaper than concrete, from both a money and quaility point of view. For example, there is a greater potenial to use sub par materials and save money.If you are looking for cheap, stratch Griffner off the list now. They are a high end product.
Alot of timber frame construction can be made off site, and so the on site time is reduced. How much it is reduced by depends on the system.What health benefits are you refering to, im a little at a loss.
Three companys that might be worth a look are:
IJM Timber Frame Housing
Century Homes
Griffner CoillteWho is building the house? Yourself or have you hired someone. It is straight forward or is there an element to the design that requires an engineers design?
@Coexist wrote:
Can anyone tell me if Bord Pleanal must justify its reasons for contravening a Development Plan and also if they fail to take on the recommendations in their Inspector are they obliged to justify why they ruled against these recommendations?
like you said they are recommendations. If they had to stick to them 100%, what would be the point it continuing the process further than the inspector.
As for your path to go now, I have no idea. They are people here with a better knowledge than me and will be alone soon if your lucky.
@magnesiacore wrote:
So where are Ireland’s building materials mostly comming from? With all the big international money flowing into Ireland most of it is going into development and construction.
Alot of materials are irish made, (obviously noy all). And some materials that are imported are done so not because they can’t be found nationally, but rather because of personnal preferences.
